My email excahnges with Neumann of June 2006
June 24, 2006
Dear Mr. Neuwmann:
When it comes to the question of Palestine, even the proressive Jews tell 'logic' to take a hike!
When the shock and awe fell on Iraq over 3 years ago, my eyes fell on the Jews like laser beams! I have come a long ways since then in understanding the "J" question. Yes, remove the Jewish question from the equation, and millions of Iraqis and other Arabs who perished due to malnutrition, war and murder would be alive today. The presence of European Jews on Arab land is a scourge! Not because they are 'Jews', whatever that means, but because they are alien occupiers and colonizers who arrived with the intention to terrorize and disperse the indigenous population off its land. No matter their current pretense by their spokespeople, these European folks had no intention of sharing the Arab land with the Arabs.
Zionism's lust was and is directed at the resources belonging to people of color! in the 'Jewish state', Herzl states as to why Palestine was chosen to be the victim of European Jewry:
i don't believe it is feasible to settle Jews upon the land in the (european) countries they now inhabit. The local peasants would finish them off with their pitch forks
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The pious christians of England would help us if we went to Palestine, for they expect that the coming of the Messiah will follow the return of the Jews. ..the Jewish state is a world necessity... they will pray for me in the synagogues but also in the churches.
Aha! but not in the mosques! The synagogues, because their brethren were about to steal prime Arab land to be bestowed upon Jews just for being Jews. The European Churches, because (a) they did not want the Jews in their midst (b) due to the hocus/pocus of the 2nd coming of Christ.
I could never understand how the European Jews could be 'returning' to a place where they have no ancestry? Could the Zulu's claim Sweden to be their ancestral land? the Jews' claim to Palestine is just as preposterous, but they would claim it with a bold and unabashed face.
Now to the issue for starting this email. I recently read a little book called 'the politics of anti-Semitism' that was profusely advertised on the Countepunch website. i was amazed if not horrified to discover that many of the Jews writing for this little book are once again engaged in what is commonly referred to as 'damage control'. Hardly anyone mentions the fact that these European Jews came to Arab land as robbers and murderers and to live at the expense of the indigenous people. they make it appear in their writings as if the European Jews and the Palestinians had always lived on the same land, they dread to mention the word 'colony' as it pertains to European Jewry on Arab land. some who wrote for this book were even bragging of the supremacy of their race:
Jews have become America's role model. Middle class gentiles who want to send their kids to a good private university, rate a school by 2 criteria: How many Jewish professors and Chinese students does it have? (By Lenni Brenner)
Go figure out that one for me.
Another writer for this book, Scott Handleman concentrated his essay attempting to explain that Europeans directed their antisemitism against Jews due to misunderstanding.
Now to your essay which prompted me to write this email to you in the first place. let's take a look:
What difference does that make? Suppose, for example, an Israeli rightist says that the settlements represent the pursuit of aspirations fundamental to the Jewish people, and to oppose the settlements is antisemitism. We might have to accept this claim; certainly it is difficult to refute. But we also cannot abandon the well-founded belief that the settlements strangle the Palestinian people and extinguish any hope of peace.
I call this speaking from both ends of your mouth. if European Jews had aspirations to congregate together as a 'people' , that aspiration and land belonged in Europe. you must understand that a rapist also has the aspiration to rape, and there is always the other equation, which is the rape victim, and in Zionism's case, the victims are people of color.
Well before the Hitler era, Zionists came thousands of miles to dispossess people who had never done them the slightest harm, and whose very existence they contrived to ignore. Zionist atrocities were not part of the initial plan. They emerged as the racist obliviousness of a persecuted people blossomed into the racial supremacist ideology of a persecuting one.
here you go again speaking from both ends of your mouth! it is like saying that the rapist was simply busting through the woman's door to show her how good it feels to be raped, perhaps the kinder and gentler kind of rape is what you are alluding Zionism to be? . what do you think the European Jews planned to do with the indigenous people when their agenda was to create a nation for Jews only on a land already occupied by another people? have you heard of auto accidents? those occur when two vehicles attempt to land on the same land at the same time!
i have to admit that i did like the greater portion of your article. but i must also admit that i am so sick and tired of the Jews who speak as 'Jews' on behalf of the victimized, but when it comes to the questions of Palestine, their essays are riddled with doublespeak, damage control, outright lies and the list goes on. when i read articles and essays authored by Jews these days, my concentrations if very focused, and i catch them again and again being so slippery that normally they would slip away unnoticed as the 'good Jew' who is speaking for justice and equality. on closer look however, they are not when it comes to that stolen piece of Arab land that they have renamed using deceptive biblical word, 'Israel'
i must also admit that there are some Jews that i totally trust and honor, but they are very few. one whose essay appears on the book, Jeff Blankfort certainly is one that i seem to trust.
i have been awakened from years of ignorance and slumber. the Zionist peril is the world's peril. people need to wake up and turn their eyes into laser beams just as i have done and focus them upon this Zionist plague before it is too late. my life is now devoted towards exposing this Zionist peril!
Dear Mr. Neumann.
i certainly thank you for your response. i have hardly read any of your writings to pass judgement on you. however, i do have very watchful eyes these days focused on the 'damage control' crowd headed by Chomsky. as one Palestinian woman once told me, why do we need the Jews' help in the struggle to free Palestine from the clutches of their brethren - considering their negligible numbers (only .25 of 1% of the world's population) when we should be focused on making the larger gentile world aware of what the Zionist peril is all about ... unless of course the Jews who come forward to help are truly motivated by justice and not engaged in 'damage control' on behalf their own tribe.
...i hope to get the chance to read your book and i will certainly give you my assessment of it.
with all due respect, what then prompted you to insert in your essay what i consider to be deliberate fabrication of the historical facts when you stated:
Zionist atrocities were not part of the initial plan. They emerged as the racist obliviousness of a persecuted people blossomed into the racial supremacist ideology of a persecuting one.
in the struggle for Palestine, we all contribute in different ways. my gift is in being able to distinguish among the 'good Jews' those who really are the good ones as opposed to those who are part of the 'damage control' group. In my upcoming blog, i do intend to pay tribute to the great Jewish men and women who sacrificed so much (some their lives) to speak where none dared. i will also definitely expose the green snakes in the green grass, those who mingle amongst the true progressives, but only to benefit their Zionist state. i hope that i will place you in the former and not the latter after reading some of your writings. time will tell.
June 25, 2006
Nuemann: You're looking for problems where there are none. I never said that the fundamental aspirations of the Jewish people should be respected, , whatever they may be. I don't give a damn about any 'people's' fundamental aspirations and don't think any such claims should get a moment's consideration. Nor did I even come close to suggesting that, because it was not part of their original plan, the Zionists' racial warfare was somehow less reprehensible. I've made this very clear in The Case against Israel.
Nuemann: The problem with your focus, as someone dear to me has pointed out, is that you're going to go on and on about Jews and forget about the Palestinians. I don't write on antisemitism and the like any more for just that reason (with the exception of a book review I did as a favor to a friend). All that matters is (1) to support the Palestinians' right to violent resistance, (2) to break the US alliance with Israel.
Nuemann: These are questions of power. To break the power of Israel is far more important than historical argument: there will never be enough people who care about past wrongs to make any difference. The only thing one can do for the Palestinians today is to point out that US support for Israel runs contrary to US interests. I have been utterly clear on this all along.
Nuemann: Fine - I'm finished defending myself against accusations of impurity. It doesn't do anything for the Palestinians and it's not a useful or helpful way for me to spend my time.
Nuemann: You say in your original message, concerning this passage: "have you heard of auto accidents? those occur when two vehicles attempt to land on the same land at the same time! " An accident is not part of a plan. No one has shown me any passage in Herzl which states any intention to kill, starve, or destroy the homes of Palestinians. No history I've read provides such material. On the contrary, it seems that early Zionists- before Jabotinsky - refused to think about the Palestinians and considered them insignificant: hence "racist obliviousness". If you think this is a deliberate fabrication, you had better provide excellent references, chapter and verse, to prove it. You sound like xyz, who also objected to this passage. Jeff Blankfort, whom you said you admire, claims xyz is an agent of AIPAC.
Nuemann: My purpose in referring to the past was to attack Zionism on the basis of what I take to be indisputable facts, not to engage in protracted historical argument. I can't say I'm impressed by this attempt to be more 'radical' than I am. What matters is not this sort of historical dispute - what Herzl said circa 1905 cannot possibly make Israel right or wrong, weak or strong - but the issues I identified in my previous message: defending the Palestinian right to violent resistance and breaking the US-Israel allianc
Note: I have my own policy whereby I would not post email commuications which I consider them to be private. But in this case, I see no harm since Mr. Nuemann writes in a very similar fashion in his articles as he respoded to my email of of June of 2006.
Note: I have substituted the name of a person mentioned by Mr. Nuemann as 'xyz' to protect the identity of the person mentioned